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Episode 8: Origins of Britain Part 2: Brutus

Brutus of Troy

No, not that Brutus….

The battle between the Giants and Brutus. Apparently.

Concluding our look at the mythic origins of Britain this episode we eventually find out about the link between Troy and the founding of London.

All by way of a murder packed cruise around the Mediterranean with everyone’s favourite cuddly ‘hero’ Brutus (not that Brutus). And there’s giants thrown into the mix for all (you get a giant, and you get a giant, everyone gets a giant!)

We also get yet more naming of the land you find after yourself, because narcissism I suppose.

when Brut was an outlaw man, And Thorn of the down saw new Troy town

A Tree Song, Rudyard Kipling
Story in summary (Warning – contains spoilers!)

The story in brief, without the detail or discussion – not a transcript.

If you’ve already listened and just want a refresh, only want the bare bones of the story, or really don’t care about spoilers then please do click below to read on…

The Origins of Britain: Brutus

Not heard part 1? Start here with Albina…

Most episodes we have a 19th century folklorist feature but in this case we’ve a tale that has survived the ages constantly in print, without a need for any such folklorist to find it again. So instead step forward 11th century legend Geoffery of Monmouth, cursed bane of historians and a blessed gift to story tellers.

Geoffrey of Monmouth

The Unreliable Narrator – 12th century chronicler, Geoffrey of Monmouth’s “Historia Regum Britanniae” was a huge influence on British history writing for centuries to come.…

Brutus’s big stones


Having two mid size stones independently associated with a character, despite his story involving nothing to do with masonry or geology seems a little odd. But they both check out as being kind of related, and you can still see them both today:

The London Stone on Canon Street, London and the Brutus Stone on Fore Street, Totnes.

Here I stand and here I rest. And this town shall be called Totnes.

A terrible rhyme, the kind of thing Brutus (not that Brutus) would almost certainly say
Stone in a cage, to stop it escaping (this is an old picture and the stone had a bit of an outing and is no longer in quite such a cagey cage)
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It’s the one in the ground! I know the arrow makes it obvous but I keep thinking the more impressive black bit in the wall is it.
Source: Brutus Stone – Wikimedia

The Giants

So, as is discussed in the podcast there are two named giants in the story – Corineus and Gogmagog, who have a bit of a life outside this story.

In particular there are carved figures of the duo in the guildhall in London and wicker effigies of them are a key feature of the Lord Mayor’s show, a annual parade in London, and have been for many centuries.

But over time names have got confused and now the two giants are more commonly known as Gog and Magog, with poor Corineus no where to be found. The names are clearly more satisfying to say this way, but it’s just not accurate!

And by “not accurate” I mean doesn’t agree with Geoffrey’s invented nonsense.

In addition Gog and Magog have lost the rivalry aspect: being seen as the joint Guardian’s of the City of London, according to the Lord Mayor’s show website anyway. And they should know.

So they’re not quite the same Giants as in the Brutus story butrather their kinder, less murdery ancestors.

You can read more about them in the Lord Mayor’s show right here, on the official website, or simply enjoy my public domain sourced photos below.

Diana – the prophecy giver

TapisserieDiana, CC BY-SA 4.0

Selected Sources

Further Reading

Musical credits for Episode 8: Origins of Britain Part 2 – Brutus

Intro and outro theme from the incredibly talented Alice Nicholls Music

Other music, used under various Creative Commons licenses:

Damiano Baldoni
Vittoria
I’ve not fear
Elio contro Atlante
Andante in re minore

Ben von Wildenhaus
Week thirty-two

Coldnoise
Excursion

Woodspider
Hot October

Doctor Turtle
Lullaby for Democracy

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